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Taylor Swift appeared on the latest episode of New Heights, the podcast hosted by her boyfriend Travis Kelce and his brother Jason Kelce, on Wednesday night. During the two-hour episode, which marked Swift’s first-ever podcast appearance, the singer previewed her upcoming album The Life of a Showgirl and discussed topics including “The Eras Tour,” regaining control of her master recordings, fan Easter eggs, becoming a fan of the NFL, and her current obsession with making sourdough bread. She also shared intimate details about her relationship with Travis.
Here are 13 things we learned from Swift’s appearance:
— Rather than send managers and lawyers, Taylor had her mom and my brother meet with Shamrock Capital about purchasing her masters: “A couple months after the Super Bowl in Kansas City, I get a call from my mom. She’s like, ‘You got your music.’ I very dramatically hit the floor for real. Bawling my eyes out, weeping, like ‘Really!?’ I said to myself ‘Go tell Travis in a normal way,’ he was playing video games, and he put his headset down. I was like ‘I got my music back!’ And I was heaving crying. This changed my life.”
— After reclaiming her masters, Taylor Swift stated that she has no preference regarding which version of her albums fans listen to, though she believes the Taylor’s Version releases feature better vocals.
— Taylor said Red was her favorite Taylor’s Version to re-record: “Re-recording it made me be like, ‘God I love that album.’”
— Taylor said fan Easter eggs will never relate to her personal life: “I have parameters. There’s do’s and dont’s. I don’t do an Easter egg that ties to my personal life. It points to my music…”
— Taylor worked on The Life of a Showgirl while on tour in Europe: “I would be playing shows. I would do like three shows in a row. I’d have three days off. I’d fly to Sweden, go back to the tour, and was actually working on this. I was physically exhausted at this point in the tour, but I was so mentally stimulated and so excited to be creating.”
— Taylor said the goal of her new album was to create “melodies that are so infectious that you’re angry at it” while maintaining the songwriting prowess of folklore.
— The theme of The Life of a Showgirl “isn’t really about what happened to me on stage, it’s about what I was going through off stage.”
— Travis Kelce offered his own description of The Life of a Showgirl: “It’s a lot more upbeat, fun pop. A complete 180 from songs on Tortured Poets.”
— Performing over three hours each night on “The Eras Tour” pushed Taylor Swift to her physical limits and required extensive post-show recovery — something Travis noted wasn’t too dissimilar from what NFL players experience: “It was a lot of physical therapy and it was a lot of being in a state of perpetual discomfort,” Taylor recounted. Added Travis, “When I saw the recovery station in the hotel room after, with the toe spacers… Shit, I’m telling you, dude, the similarities were crazy.”
— Taylor said she has never allowed herself to feel like she’s arrived: “That is why it felt so much more special to keep working harder, to get to new levels.”
— Taylor has become obsessed with making sourdough bread: “Sourdoughs taken over my life in a huge way. I’m really talking about bread 60% of the time now…. There’s blueberry lemon, there’s cinnamon swirl, cinnamon raisin, and, this one I’ve been workshopping for the girls because they love everything rainbow, funfetti sourdough.”
— Taylor said she rarely looks at the internet: “I do detach from the internet in a huge way. I have had my comments disabled on Instagram for like 10 years now? And I don’t miss it.”
— Taylor Swift on her first impression of Travis Kelce: “If this guy isn’t crazy, this is sort of what I’ve been writing songs about wanting to happen to me since I was a teenager.”
Swift’s new album, The Last of a Showgirl, arrives on October 3rd.
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